June 15, 2017 at 12:04
That’s right. Ya gotta live it. 🙂
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June 15, 2017 at 12:43
June 15, 2017 at 12:44
Did you see the link I posted on one of your recent “Yep” memes?
June 15, 2017 at 12:45
I must have missed it
June 15, 2017 at 12:48
^This was the link^
June 15, 2017 at 12:49
Ha, I had just found it. Amusing
June 15, 2017 at 12:09
Amen! Our pastor recently gave a good talk about “believe and follow.” We’re called to believe, but keep in mind even the demons believe. He also says, “follow me.” So we are believing in Him and following. The very word “follow,” suggests you aren’t going to be able to do it all sitting down. 🙂
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James did tell us, under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, that faith without works is dead. Thanks IB!
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June 15, 2017 at 12:20
so very true
June 15, 2017 at 13:54
Yup. Gotta live the life!
June 15, 2017 at 14:15
Indeed so, my friend, indeed so. Thanks Elihu.
June 15, 2017 at 14:01
Not only interesting in terms of “living the life” but that photo also speaks volumes to me…of the lukewarm church (headlights on but in the background is darkness)…
Almost seems Indicative of the spiritual warfare surrounding each in the Body of Christ.
June 15, 2017 at 14:14
Wow….very nice, and perceptive too!. Thank you for the additional insight
June 15, 2017 at 16:00
I keep hearing over and over again that if we let the community use the church it is outreach – to some just using a church will make people into Christians – I think there maybe more to outreach than offering cheap rental space but that’s just me
June 15, 2017 at 16:08
Well, for what it’s worth, I am pretty sure I am on board with that. I’m not really a huge fan of just letting anybody use the facility to be honest. We normally keep it to members, or people close to members. And even then, private functions like a shower or something. It’s certainly not out reach. But, as you say, that’s just me!
Of course, we are pretty small, and nobody really wants to use our place anyway LOL.
June 15, 2017 at 18:56
I’m a bit on the fence here. While on the one hand, simply being in a church doesn’t “make” one a Christian, the church IS where God’s word – especially His Word of salvation – is preached for all to hear. So I know what you’re saying and I acknowledge the truth in it, but at the same time it comes uncomfortably close to denying the efficacy of God’s word to do what it promises to do, that is, make believers.
I think where the analogy breaks down for me is that it seems to imply that “being” Christian is OUR work and not God’s, and I just can’t go there.
I guess it depends on what one puts their trust in. If you’re trusting the act of attending church itself for salvation, that is a misplaced trust, but if you’re trusting the Word that is preached there, well, that is the very definition of a Christian – one who hears the Word and trusts it… regardless of how it appears to play out the other 6 days of the week.
There’s probably an equal number of Christians who are falsely putting their trust in their “transformed lives”, not the “Transformer” Himself.
This is ever our temptation, to make an idol out of our works, and especially works of piety. Putting our trust in either “going to church” or our Christian lives are really two sides of the same dangerous coin.
June 15, 2017 at 19:02
Well first, all good words there, none of which I find any fault with. Mostly that is directed towards folks who think the fact that they are members, lifelong members, or mom and dad were members of some church has made things right between them and God.
I certainly wasn’t casting any aspersions on the efficacy of God’s Word, after all He Himself told us it would never return void!
June 15, 2017 at 19:10
Yeah and clearly if one is trusting in their membership to save them (or their heritage) then they need to be pointed back to Christ. It’s amazing (and a little scary) how subtly the devil works to twist our trust away from Christ and onto, ultimately, a god of our own making.
June 15, 2017 at 19:12
Yep, and it’s really common here in the south of the USA, where church membership is really a part of who one is.
June 15, 2017 at 19:17
Oh interesting! When I was real young, like 11, 12, that was more common here. You went to church because it was culturally expected and you went to where your family had always gone whether you believed it or not.
Canada is so secular now that if you’re going to church you’re going against the grain, you’re there cuz you wanna be there.
June 15, 2017 at 19:22
Well, that may actually be a healthy thing. I mean, the numbers may be smaller, but the faith more genuine, if that makes sense. It’s becoming more and more common, but it’s still quite “Christian” around these parts. Now, go 75 miles to the city, and things change radically, and are probably similar to what you experience.
June 15, 2017 at 19:30
Around here going to church regularly is counter-culture and definitely viewed with suspicion. People aren’t usually openly hostile but they definitely think we’re weirdos. Secularism is so engrained, they don’t quite know what to do with those of us who insist on persisting in our faith. We’re a mystery to ’em 😉
June 15, 2017 at 19:41
Wow, I could so work with that. Me and a friend door knock on Thursday nights( just got back in fact.) I generally get better receptions from a stone cold heathen than I do non active “Christians.” At least the heathens are honest.
June 16, 2017 at 12:56
Classic but true
June 16, 2017 at 13:46
It is classic, isn’t it? A preacher favorite!
June 16, 2017 at 14:09
June 15, 2017 at 13:16
Thanks brother Vincent!
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