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March 24, 2017 at 14:48
The more I think about this, the more I disagree.
Salvation has no objective other than to remove our guilt and reconcile us to our God. Forgiveness and reconciliation bring about changes in our lives (although we will not become sinless during this lifetime). To view our obedience to God’s commands as an objective of salvation confuses the two plans of God.
God created us with a plan: we are to do good works.
God saved us with a plan: Jesus takes away our guilt and clothes us in his righteousness so we can be called the children of God.
The two are interwoven, but please resist the thought that Jesus saved you so you can do good for him. J.
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March 24, 2017 at 15:40
Actually, I don’t think we disagree at all. Read again my friend. I didn’t say obedience is an objective of salvation. I said salvation is merely the beginning of our Christian lives.
March 24, 2017 at 16:53
Yes, but you paired it with Ephesians 2:10, which tells why we were created, not why we were saved. You know what you mean, I realize that, but another reader could easily think you mean that it’s not enough to be saved… so to that other reader, I reiterate: we do not have to do anything before our salvation to be saved, because Jesus did it all. We do not have to do anything during our salvation to be saved, because Jesus did it all. We do not have to do anything after our salvation to merit being saved, because Jesus did it all.
Good works are necessary, but not for salvation. Good works are necessary because we were created to do good works, and we can only do them through the power of our salvation. We now return to our regularly scheduled program. J.
March 24, 2017 at 16:58
I’m good with that.
March 25, 2017 at 13:22
Hey brother J,
You said “Yes, but you paired it with Ephesians 2:10, which tells why we were created, not why we were saved.” Do you see it is possible that “created in Christ” here refers not to creation per se but the phrase “in Christ” might suggest there’s a soteriological dimension to Ephesians 2:10?
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