Caeli, I’m not sure I agree that Adam and Eve were perfect. If they were, they would not have sinned against God when tempted by the serpent. Christ was tempted by Satan while in the desert for 40 days. He was not swayed. We’re also told that Jesus was tempted in the same manner that man has been tempted, yet He sinned not. You got me thinking,though. Thanks for posting.
Steve, perhaps some additional words here would help. I sense we are about to have a semantic issue here, when I think we are all saying the same thing. I extract this directly from what is believe in my work and I think it will help.
“We believe Man was created in the image of God and lived in innocency until he fell by voluntary transgression from his sinless state….”
So, they were created in an innocent, sinless state. Once they voluntarily sinned, they were no longer either innocent nor sinless.
Some folks do use the word perfect to describe that, but not in any sort of comparison to the sinless perfection of Jesus.
August 9, 2016 at 12:14
I suppose we can ask Adam and Eve what they were thinking 🙂 but we already have the Bible to know that.
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August 9, 2016 at 12:36
Indeed!
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August 9, 2016 at 12:43
They were perfect too! Yet even in that perfection, apart from God, it was only short lived. We all need Jesus!
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August 9, 2016 at 12:44
All the whosoevers do!
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August 9, 2016 at 13:43
Absolutely! You are never “too far gone”
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August 9, 2016 at 14:00
And that’s pretty awesome
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August 9, 2016 at 19:11
Caeli, I’m not sure I agree that Adam and Eve were perfect. If they were, they would not have sinned against God when tempted by the serpent. Christ was tempted by Satan while in the desert for 40 days. He was not swayed. We’re also told that Jesus was tempted in the same manner that man has been tempted, yet He sinned not. You got me thinking,though. Thanks for posting.
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August 9, 2016 at 19:29
Steve, perhaps some additional words here would help. I sense we are about to have a semantic issue here, when I think we are all saying the same thing. I extract this directly from what is believe in my work and I think it will help.
“We believe Man was created in the image of God and lived in innocency until he fell by voluntary transgression from his sinless state….”
So, they were created in an innocent, sinless state. Once they voluntarily sinned, they were no longer either innocent nor sinless.
Some folks do use the word perfect to describe that, but not in any sort of comparison to the sinless perfection of Jesus.
Does that help?
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August 9, 2016 at 19:32
Yep. Thanks.
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August 9, 2016 at 19:34
I aims to please my friend!
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August 10, 2016 at 11:49
Now that’s a Biblical view of sin and grace
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August 10, 2016 at 11:51
Thanks brother
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August 11, 2016 at 08:21
Yep!! And that is why I tell folks to be careful when throwing out judgmental remarks about who can and cannot be saved.
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August 11, 2016 at 08:27
Why would we even say any person could not be saved is my question.
I personally believe we all can but even if it turns out I am mistaken in that it is still not for me to guess about it
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August 9, 2016 at 12:36
Thanks Pastor Jim
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