As we resume following Don’s great study of the Sermon on the Mount, we pick up with what many call The Lord’s Prayer. Don calls it the Disciple’s Prayer, which is really closer to what is truly is. Blessings and enjoy!
Sitting at the Feet of Yeshua
In this post, we continue with our study of the Sermon on the Mount by learning more about how Yeshua taught us to pray. We have been sitting at His feet for some time now as we learn directly from Him what it means to be true talmidim and how we should pray.
We have already learned that Yeshua tells us not to be a hypocrite when we pray; that we should pray in our secret place; and, that we should not babble on and on with endless words in our prayers.
Recently, a priest, a minister and a rabbi sat discussing the best posture for prayer while a telephone line worker made repairs nearby.
“Lying prostrate on the ground is definitely the best way to pray,” the priest said.
“No,” said the minister. “I get the best results kneeling with my hands outstretched to Heaven.”
“You’re both wrong,” the Rabbi said. “The most effective prayer position is standing in the synagogue facing Jerusalem.”
The line worker couldn’t help but interject. “Hey, fellas,” he interrupted, “The best prayin’ I ever did was when I was hangin’ upside down from a telephone pole.”
Read the rest of the post here: The Disciple’s Prayer ~ Part 1
Truth in Palmyra 
August 1, 2016 at 19:02
If I find myself hanging upside down it would be a strong motivator for some serious praying.
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August 1, 2016 at 19:07
Yeah, I think so. Like the expression there are no atheists in foxholes sort of.
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August 1, 2016 at 19:18
How does one convert an atheist? Throw him from a pretty high place and you will have a quick conversion lol.
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August 1, 2016 at 19:22
Hmm…well..not sure tossing people off things is necessarily the best message, but I understand the point.
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August 1, 2016 at 19:24
LOL….I was just saying that when an atheist sees his life in danger he will think twice in believing in his cousin George the monkey.
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August 1, 2016 at 19:27
Well….I know what you meant, brother! Just some of my more strident critics would gladly run tell the world Wally said toss the atheist off a cliff LOL.
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August 1, 2016 at 19:31
LOL….now that what you just said made me crack up laughing. I would imagine your special friends come across us talking and will think we are throwing people off the roofs lololol.
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August 1, 2016 at 19:33
Special friends….I like that!
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August 1, 2016 at 19:34
Thanks Wally for the laughter. Much appreciated 🙂
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August 1, 2016 at 19:37
My pleasure; I needed it too
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August 1, 2016 at 21:41
Well, Wally, for once I agree with you. The best prayin’ is driven by fear.
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August 2, 2016 at 04:24
Hi David
I don’t have any plans to argue with you over this, but am compelled to say one thing.
You said you agree with me, that the best prayer is driven by fear?
Well, actually you are agreeing with something I never said.
So, in case anyone gets confused by your comment and thinks I actually do agree with that statement, I suggest they read the post and see that I actually don’t agree with it.
That, David, is why conversation with you and others is difficult. Do you even understand that, by one comment, you planted the idea that my post is about something that it is not.
The reference you made was, as you well know, to a joke in that post merely being used as an illustration. The post was actually about the Disciple’s Prayer, the Model Prayer, or as some call it, The Lord’s Prayer.
This was Jesus’s response when asked by His followers how to pray. And, no where in the response to them did He say the best way to pray is when scared.
Again, this is why conversation with you is impossible, as you and others attempt to basically re write posts in order to make your own negative point.
So, again, to be clear, I do not agree with the statement you said you and I agree on. For you state such says one of several things:
You don’t read what you comment on
You don’t understand what you comment on
You intentionally place the idea that posters have said something they never said in order to promote their own agenda.
So, again, when face with you rewording of what I have said, I will not entertain this conversation, which we all know will result in immediate accusations that I “can’t face the tough questions.”
I think most will see that is not the case here and understand your activities for what they are.
Peace
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August 2, 2016 at 07:06
Well, I guess I should have added an LOL. I meant my comment to be somewhat tongue in cheek as I was responding to a joke. A joke for a joke. But it true that I assume that when you post a joke, you don’t entirely disagree with the point of the punchline.
And I don’t think you went out of your way to disagree the basic premise of the Spaniard that fear is a powerful motivater. And what an odd thought he had there. I certainly understand that no one was actually thinking of actually throwing atheist off of high places, but it’s odd that such a thought would even enter the mind in the first place.
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August 2, 2016 at 07:20
Look David
” But it true that I assume that when you post a joke, you don’t entirely disagree with the point of the punchline. ”
In effect, you just reiterated your comment.
Here is why this is the last interaction I am going to have with you on this, and this is crystal clear and obvious to anyone. Additionally, it totally negates your claim that you seek actual dialogue.
You have completely ignored the content of the post and instead zeroed in on some fairly harmless banter, that in context of the conversation, is simply not how you have categorized it. Yet, you persist in assigning meaning that is not there, and I have said is not there.
Fear? Well, duh, of course fear would cause me to pray. That is a given.
But, fear was not the point of the post. And, David, either you know that and are intentionally redirecting this post, or you have limited reading skills. Since you are obviously quite intelligent…well you get the point.
Anyway, perhaps some day you will actually want dialogue where you aren’t assigning meaning to other people’s words that are not there, but you desperately wish was there.
Peace David, but my conversation with you on this thread is done.
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August 2, 2016 at 08:06
So, the joke was not a part of the content of the post? It’s inappropriate to respond to any comments which focus on anything other than the main point of the post? Comments are not a part of the discussion of the content of the post?
I see.
Yes, Wally, I understood the main point of the post. What I didn’t understand was that any other points or other content or the comments that followed were somehow out of bounds for further discussion. Now I understand.
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August 2, 2016 at 12:20
By the way, Wally, if you look closely, you’ll see that I was not the one who redirected the post. The Spaniard redirected the post with the first comment. And apparently, that was fine with you.
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August 2, 2016 at 12:50
Wally, I see what you meant that your special friend David will misunderstand my joke which by the way was pure fun. That will be my last time that I joke in your post so not to get you in trouble. Do me a favor Wally and delete all of my comments so someone like David doesn’t give you anymore trouble on account of me. 🙂
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August 2, 2016 at 12:52
I don’t mind friend. It was simple jest. I can take it I promise
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August 2, 2016 at 12:59
Yeah but it seems I’m doing your post more damage than good. If you would just delete my comments I would appreciate it. I guess I went to far with my joke…this jokes are for inner circle like you and I not the Davids out there. I’m not upset or anything but I understand what you said about your critics
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August 2, 2016 at 13:02
Don’t mind David he and I have been friends for a couple of years…this is a long term relationship
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August 2, 2016 at 13:21
As long I don’t get you in trouble
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August 2, 2016 at 14:19
I stay in trouble. If I was not in some trouble I would be worried
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August 2, 2016 at 14:30
Amen to that.
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August 2, 2016 at 16:40
I didn’t misunderstand the joke, although I think it a bit odd that you would go with throwing people off of high places to make a point about what might motivate people to pray. It’s not something that I would have thought to do. What drew you to this particular joke?
Regardless, it did redirect the post which I understand is something that Wally opposes.
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August 2, 2016 at 16:42
…and it’s the jokes that we reserve for out inner circle that are most revealing.
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August 4, 2016 at 08:18
As expected, Don’s lesson did not disappoint. As for David, quit feeding him ammo and eventually he will become bored and find someone else willing to bite.
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August 4, 2016 at 08:25
No Don never disappoints.
Good counsel of David, thanks.
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